Shokei Shoujo no Virgin Road Episode 1 Discussion

Idoreview said:

I get the feeling you haven't even read my posts or you would already know the exact episode I dropped it.

And just what in Episode 1 alone leads you to believe the isekai characters couldn't be executed in a regular manner?

And just what in Episode 1 alone leads you to believe the isekai characters couldn't be executed in a regular manner?

Lab_Rat_0978 said:


you accused the executioners for being assassins in disguise,

you basically said theyre sneaking on people and killing the lost one whilst theyre not looking

well yea,
you cant arrest and excute the lost ones like regular executioners normally do

as we can see in Episode 1
the lost ones are similar to walking nukes,
they could explode and destroying everything in the surrounding area

there's one time when flare,
menou's master

she killed the lost one in front of her daughter, its not cuz she's a sadist

its purely to prevent the lost one from destroying the whole city in her last dying breath,
flare was like
"are you sure? your daughter will get killed as well you know?"

I honestly don't recall that in Episode 1. I recall a number of events incuding a church full of purple light, but no cities being nuked outright.
It would be more interesting if it were actually about these supposed walking nukes, not about... what it is.

Did that actually feature in the first episode? Or was that handwaved in?

Lab_Rat_0978 said:

apparent you can only remember things that are convenient to you,
and things that are unrelated to the anime

such as; the whole Prince of Persia stepped on a Hashashin

but when it comes to one of the most relevant parts in Episode 1....

you honestly forgot about it?
it happens on 12:45, give or take

everything and everyone in menou's hometown gets decimated by a white nuke. the white girl said that she didn't mean it, she just wanted to go home....back to japan. flare couldn't careless,
she still stabbed the white girl to death but it didn't enough to kill her, she revived herself but then archbishop orwell pulled one of anti-pure concept [the pseudo chruch] on her, killed her for good

Idoreview said:

No, I accuse them of not being executioners at all, just assassins. There's not even a legal mandate, for they fashion themselves as above the law caste... and honestly that's by far the most interesting part of the plot.

Idoreview said:
Sure you can. And why not execute them in a legal process? No matter what their magic goes off in death, and if Episode 1's events in the present are an indication then postdeath magic's pretty much harmless if not literally so. In Episode 1 alone there's no reason to assume otherwise, even if one might want to do executions alone with a set of guards, or better something like crusaders with holy texts, and so I find the premise to be infinitely better than the execution.

Idoreview said:
I honestly don't recall that in Episode 1. I recall a number of events incuding a church full of purple light, but no cities being nuked outright.
It would be more interesting if it were actually about these supposed walking nukes, not about... what it is.

Idoreview said:
Is that event from episode 1?

Did that actually feature in the first episode? Or was that handwaved in?

Lab_Rat_0978 said:
@Idoreview



seriously?

you now....remind me a lot of Amber Heard XD



I did not see that coming lol

to think....you can only remember things that are convenient to you,
and things that are unrelated to the anime

such as; the whole Prince of Persia stepped on a Hashashin

but when it comes to one of the most relevant parts in Episode 1....

you honestly forgot about it?
it happens on 12:45, give or take

everything and everyone in menou's hometown gets decimated by a white nuke. the white girl said that she didn't mean it, she just wanted to go home....back to japan. flare couldn't careless,
she still stabbed the white girl to death but it didn't enough to kill her, she revived herself but then archbishop orwell pulled one of anti-pure concept spell [the pseudo chruch] on her,
killed her for good

@Sekirodiealotoft

@Ionliosite2

what do you guys think? I wonder how could someone overlook too many stuff in Episode 1 alone like this?
reality truly is stranger than fiction

I thought only Amber Heard who could pull such as a feat

Sekirodiealotoft said:
That's what i wanna know. How could they overlook such an important detail? They didn't watch more than 1 to 4 ep because they keep saying the show doesn't explain anything.

LS_11 said:


it was easy, because they didn't see how the film was shown but still said they saw it. like how people come to the cinema to watch a horror movie but close their eyes from start to finish, but when someone asks if he watched it, he says yes he did.

Memel0rd187 said:
Sorry, but come on the dude had the power to nullify anything, he should have had the power to nullify his injury, or even better from what I saw he nullifies shit instantly so as soon as the knife was swung at him he sould have killed her or some shit. I watched about 400-450 anime series and only droped 4 (this is the 5th one), some of them were painfull to watch but this one i just couldn't watch for this one reason, they could have given him any other power that would make sense but naaah we wil give him power to litteraly nullify things and then not use it to nullify death but the bitch that can heal injuries can. FFS

Ionliosite2 said:


Ok, did you see that he pretty much just discored how to use his power? Also, he didn't saw Menou swinging her knife since when he turned back the knife was pretty much already in his head.

Btw, if you know that Akari could recover from it I hope you also payed attention that she has time powers and not just "healing".

Memel0rd187 said:
nope dropped it, also he turned around before she even swung, and he has the power to and i quote "nullify everything",not saying that he shouldn't have died i doubt that an average highschool boy has better reflexes than a trained assassin but he has the power to nullify anything so he can nullify his injuries, and knife to the skull isn't instant death so he had enough time to cast it.

Ionliosite2 said:


I don't mind that you dropped it, I won't force you to watch it if you don't want to. Again, he literally just discovered his power, how was he going to use it for something like nullifying his own death? I doubt he knew how to do that. Instant no, but again, he barely knew his powers, it'll be fast enough.

Memel0rd187 said:

Yet the girl knew how to cast it immediently.
Edit: she was also stabbed Air assault style (assassin creed) which means ther subclavian artery was pierced so that would be more fatal than the knife trough the head.

Lab_Rat_0978 said:


menou could've easily used her scripture to kill the boy again

it also happened to the white girl in episode 1,
flare killed her but she revived herself archbishop orwell proceeded to cast one of the spells in her scripture to purify the white girl to death

also fyi
the boy didnt have the ability to "null everything,"
when he "erased" the wall and the roof
the space around em didnt get afflicted at all

menou could still approach him, took his corpse and buried him in the backyard

had he truly erased the wall and the roof conceptually,
all the concepts of wall and roof would've also gotten erased in the world

or at the very least
you wouldn't be able to repair the wall and the roof in that church cuz they got erased conceptually

but nope,
the space didnt get erased nothing truly got erased
it's either the boy pure concept had certain limitations
or it simply couldn't erase things on conceptual level yet

or myb its similar to the situation where

holy mages can easily resurrect other people but when they get killed they cant revive themselves,
they still need other holy mages to revive em

Memel0rd187 said:

Yet the girl knew how to cast it immediently.
Edit: she was also stabbed Air assault style (assassin creed) which means ther subclavian artery was pierced so that would be more fatal than the knife trough the head.

Memel0rd187 said:
dude the spell(at least in English) is called nullify - dictionary meaning of it is invalidate or cancel out not erase, wtf are you talking about. Also if he cant use his power post mortum how can the girl do it?

Lab_Rat_0978 said:


so
youre gonna just take the word "nullify" with a grain of salt?
without taking the feats that the boy did into consideration at all?

do you even comprehend what feats are?

genius

lmao and you also have no idea there are at least 3 types of conceptual manipulation

go educate yourself

Memel0rd187 said:


Yeah I dunno what you mean by feats, the only meaning I remember are acomplisment, achievement, translation to my language didn't say anything else, I doubt that you meant the dnd feats but in case you are here are all the subcategories of nullification and negation i found: Capability Suppression, Impairment Calling, Life-Force Inhibition, Meta Power Negation, Power Negation Field. You should know that I wasn't educated in an english speaking country, so the word nullify could mean also something else in the more specified field like psychology, which could be relevant in this case, because you are refering to the concept of manipulation. Now then if feats are acomplishments and you are thinking that his type of conceptual manipulation is destruction of ideas because he showed that, some of his feats were putting out a hand in the direction of a certain object, and putting hands between a threat and himself and idea destruction as you pointed out in your last quote (I should point out that he could maybe have erased the sub idea of that particular roof and that particular wall) why didn't he kill the assassin the same way he destroyed the wall, he is manipulating the concept of matter. Another thing you said is that "holy mages can easily resurrect other people but when they get killed they cant revive themselves, they still need other holy mages to revive em" I'm guessing that you are refering to the isekai'd people as holy mages because you were responding to my comment in which the agument only fitthat the boy could nullify the injuries, but that then contradicts itself because the girl revived herself.

Ionliosite2 said:


Ok, I'm not going to answer all of that. Feats are basically the stuff the person has done with a power, like if a person uses fire that burns at 1000c you can't assume he can reach beyond that because we weren't told or shown that he can.

He didn't kill Menou (the assassin) because 1. He completely trusted in her 2. He didn't know he was going to kill her; basically, once he realized what was happening he already got a knife in his head and was still confused about what just happened.

Contradict itself? Because of the girl? As I said above the girl knows how to use her powers unlike the boy, I just can't particualary explain why because guess what? That's an spoiler for episode 6 and we are in an episode 1 thread where the very same rules says I shouldn't be talking beyond this episode. This isn't an inconsistency at all if you reach far enough, which I know you won't because you dropped the series.

I dont know how long you are watching anime,

Memel0rd187 said:

I wasn't talking about you, you didn't contradict yourself he did, also I know that he didn't kill her because he had trust in her, I was just pointing out to him that using feats is useless because he showed his destructive powers, and with what he showed of his insticts he probably should have killed her even if he was near death. My man went into a ramble about conceptual manipulation on a myanimelist forum of a bad to average rated anime, while i just wanted to say that the first one and a half episode don't explain enough and aren't interesting enough for a large number of people to continue watching.

Sekirodiealotoft said:
It's interesting, it's just that people can't handle not being able to self-insert for once.

Lab_Rat_0978 said:


the dude claimed, "a half of episode 1 dont explain enough" lol
easily one of the most delusional bs Ive seen in a while

EstebanOD said:
I would've much preferred watching an anime about the guy with the void power thingy than about a weak girl killing isekaied people just because "they're stronger than her" so they are all scared..

Ionliosite2 said:


Em... did we watch the same show? They don't kill them because "they are stronger", if you watched the first episode you should have gotten that they are a danger because they can get out of control just like the girl destroying Menou's town because she couldn't control her powers.

Lab_Rat_0978 said:
@Memel0rd187



you should've asked yourself first lol

how long have you been watching anime?

For example:

1. ever heard of chibaku tensei from naruto shippuden?
chibaku tensei means catastrophic Planetary construction or Planetary devastation. it sounds cool looking name and all but
is chibaku tensei's destructive capacity truly on Planetary level? its Proven by Feats that chibaku tensei is nowhere near Planetary level,
its not even on a continent level, even EoS Sasuke's chibaku tensei is barely on multiple cities level

2. Ichigo's signature move from bleach, getsuga tensho.
getsuga tensho means moon fang Heaven-Piercer but
Can the Heaven really get pierced by this technique tho?

3. Vegeta's signature move from DBZ, Big Bang Attack. Can it truly cause a freaking Big Bang tho? its Proven by Feats that Big Bang Attack is not a legit Big Bang that can obliterate zillions of stars in the universe

4. Ainz Ooal Gown from overlord,
one of his spells is literally called Black Hole but
does this Black Hole have the same traits as regular Black Hole in space tho? its proven by Feats that Ainz's Black Hole is NOT a legit Black Hole that can DEVOUR everything including planets and stars

another example from Ainz,
will be his Heal magic or Healing potion. its literally called HEAL but can it also Heal broken equipments? such as; broken sword, shield, armor etc? lol









Feats matter a lot in power scaling

Only ignorant poople like you who would simply take things with a grain of salt. Conveniently assumed the boy could nullify anything just cuz its called nullify. if you dont want to educate yourself,
go watch more anime